Major Reeves

by **Matt Crowther** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:22 pm

In Regenade Rocket, Major Reeves feels ill before going outside and faling off the boat. Captain Black is watching all this...I presume that the Mysterons made Reeves ill and therefore caused him to fall?

Or am I wrong?

They seem to do stuff like this, such as taking over the truck in Big Ben Strikes Again.

If this is the case why not just do this all the time?

by **James. C** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:42 am

It wouldn't be as interesting. :wink:

by **chrisbishop** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:16 pm

I think... that Captain Black, as the vessel of the Mysterons' powers has to be nearby when those things happen, so they can focus on their target(s). Reeves did fall from the ship, but was he already dead by then, by the powers of the Mysterons, or did he simply drown? I suppose the second option, but we will never really know. Whatever Black had done to him from ashore might not have been sufficient to kill him in the first place, but enough for him to lose his footing, and thus ensure that he'll die once he'll be in the water.

You must remember the case of Doctor Beck, though, in Shadow of Fear, who fell to a similar ailment while watching Mars through a telescope. In his case, however, he did die... Perhaps, in this instance, the Mysterons didn't need Black, because Beck was so focused himself on Mars, and looking directly at it...

So why won't they do that more often? Perhaps because they are waging a psychological war on us, and could simply wipe us out of Earth's surface whenever they want. Perhaps because they have sworn their revenge would be slow... or perhaps that controlling a human mind in such a way is so darn more difficult than they expected, that they could only do it with a selected few who are more receptive to their powers (much like some people can be hypnotised and others can't).

Again, as they say themselves, "The Mysterons have powers we cannot hope to understand"... so any explanation could do. We might never really know.

Any other thoughts?

by **Marion** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:09 pm

On a more prosaic note: I am sure I read somewhere that Gerry Anderson only decided to keep Captain Black in the show when he saw how ghoulish he looked after he'd been taken over by the Mysterons in the first episode.
If that's the case, some stories might have leant themselves more readily to having Black kill/control the Mysteron's chosen target or weapon? Where the plot didn't, the Mysterons managed without him - as with Dr Breck...
We see Black killing some people personally - but usually it is done by a vehicle crash (cars or trains) and then the picture cuts away to show Black watching - which suggests he wasn't always intended to be there...
In some cases - like the space craft that crashed into the temple at Najama - he wasn't anywhere near when the craft was destroyed by the Mysterons and surely, that business with the transmitter was a bit of a red herring? The craft would go wherever the Mysterons sent it - after all they controlled it.
Blowing up the temple was pretty pointless...
But - boy! - did we get to see some big explosions!

by **DartBrat701** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:15 am

From what it looked like to me, Dr. Breck was "killed" when he viewed Mars through the telescope and instead saw dazzling & fluctuating lights. We also saw Breck's body being dragged past his Mysteron duplicate.

Question is, WHO was dragging him, Capt. Black, perhaps?....even though, we don't see him!

In "Manhunt", Captain Black simply flicks a switch to send a car hoist clear to the ceiling, crushing car, mechanic and all!

Black also casually flicks a lit match onto a puddle of oil in order to destroy a warehouse storing Angel aircraft.

by **chrisbishop** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:18 am

It would rather appear that the body was dragged by Breck's duplicate himself - just like the original Scarlet had been, in the pilot, probably to hide it.

Good thing Scarlet doesn't remember any of this. Someone could go mad recalling how he actually buried a body who was originally his...

by **gojohnniegogo** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:12 pm

As you've mentioned that from the pilot the bodies being dragged, what about Brown's body? They didnt hide that, and even though it's was only a couple of feet away, they never reported discovering Scarlet's original body!

by **Matt Crowther** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:48 pm

Maybe that body just walked away...

...or just do what corpses do.

by **Marion** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:39 am

I suspect that if they found Scarlet's original body - wherever it had been carefully hidden, by whoever it was - they also found Brown's. But, as the Mysteronised Brown had just blown himself and an entire building into smithereens, it wasn't as urgent to report that fact, as to point out that whatever had happened to him, had also happened to Captain Scarlet, who was - at that time - flying the World President to London.
Besides, you have to remember they didn't have much time per episode and they probably didn't want to confuse the young viewers with too much information. We think it's interesting what they did, or didn't, say, but they were making a TV show where the emphasis was on action, not words.
I'm sure we can fill in the gaps for ourselves - in fact, that's what many of us do in the fan fiction stories.

by **chrisbishop** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:43 am

Maybe that body just walked away...

...or just do what corpses do.

What do they do - lay around, looking stiff? (>[

Couldn't resist! :wink:

by **Carrie** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:41 pm

Board stiff...even....

Oh I can hear the jeers from here....
Sorry....couldn' t resist that one either... :oops:

by **DartBrat701** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:16 am

Crass as it might sound, maybe the Mysterons sometimes snatches them! :shock:

Which brings up an interesting question; Just whatever became of Lieutenants Dean & Conway, after Captain Black returned alone from the Zero-X mission and his subsequent disappearance?

Nice avatar, Carrie!! :grin:

(What a dishy hunk, that Captain Grey! 0---0

)

by **Cobalt** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:17 pm

DartBrat701 wrote:Crass as it might sound, maybe the Mysterons sometimes snatches them!

Which brings up an interesting question; Just whatever became of Lieutenants Dean & Conway, after Captain Black returned alone from the Zero-X mission and his subsequent disappearance?

Nice avatar, Carrie!! (What a dishy hunk, that Captain Grey! )

Lt's Dean and Conway hmmm, well it's possible the Mysterons kept them in some sort of suspended animation. They at that time didn't know alot about humans and their ways. As for Captain Black himself, hmm yes he did 'vanish' from Glen Feild Spaceport. Excatly what happened you may have to draw your own conclusions to that.

We know that Black is not completely devoid of humanity. It's quite possible that the Mysterons seized control over Black's mind in someway. A technological Zombie???

Our powers are beyond human comprehension - The Mysterons

So it's quite possible that Black is still human, alive and not a Mysteron replicant.

by **MMK** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:17 am

Matt Crowther wrote:In Regenade Rocket, Major Reeves feels ill before going outside and faling off the boat. Captain Black is watching all this...I presume that the Mysterons made Reeves ill and therefore caused him to fall?

Or am I wrong?

They seem to do stuff like this, such as taking over the truck in Big Ben Strikes Again.

If this is the case why not just do this all the time?

If someone saw this happen (a few times) and told Spectrum about it, they would the know what to 'look' for (i.e on security footage).

Besides, I think that the Mysterons are being/trying to be creative with how they kill people. :grin:

by **Matt Crowther** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:27 pm

Certainly, the Mysterons try to be creative about it all. At least in NCS they seemed to be. Though OCS Mysterons they kill in all manners don't they? Without hooting my horn, in the story I wrote Black as Night I had the Mysterons Mysteronise the water in Captain Black's basin to get Black back to their control. I think the Mysterons would be as creative as anything to complete their objective.