Angel One

by **Elentari** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:59 am

captain canary wrote:I think I know what you means. The new Angels are like proper service-women, they don't worry so much about hair and stuff, because they're too busy staying alive and stuff.

Proper servicewomen do worry about their hair and stuff - especially as there is a strict dress code (ie how they wear their uniform, rules about makeup, jewellery and hairstyles, and if for some reason they are required to wear civvies instead of a uniform, there are strict rules about that too).

It's probably due to the CGI process ( :wink:

), but the NCS Angels to me always looked like they never wash their hair - to me it looked pretty greasy and oily.

by **Elentari** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:21 am

Angels tinkering with planes?

Crikey, I hope not - at least not the Interceptors unless it's the in the direst of emergencies. Military pilots are not expected to tinker with them. That's what all the ground aviation engineers, maintenance crews etc are there for.

BTW I think this is an interesting detail from RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force) entry requirements to be a pilot (http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/airforce/ ... ryTypeId=3):

The nature of Military flying is in many ways distinct from that of civilian flying. Therefore the Military Pilots' course has a different training philosophy to that of many civilian flying schools. You will be expected to progress on course at a rate which will confirm your suitability for subsequent operational conversions to front-line aircraft. Previous flying experience in a civilian environment does not necessarily confer any advantage for the military flying course.

There is no Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL) for previous practical or theoretical aviation studies available for the ADF (Australian Defence Force) Pilots' course. All successful applicants will fly exactly the same syllabus sorties regardless of previous experience.

The ADF neither encourages nor discourages potential applicants to consider flying lessons.

Here's some more about RAAF pilot training (the various training modules they must undertake):
http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/airforce/ ... ryTypeId=3

I see there's no mention of tinkering.

by **captain canary** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:58 pm

Looks like I can't say anything right.

I didn't mean that real life people in the services don't bother to wash, I meant that the actual service-women aren't going to go around showing off to the service-men like original Destiny does in Model Spy. Maybe I'm wrong about that too, though.

by **chrisbishop** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:09 pm

I see no problems with your post(s), Canary!

When it comes to this kind of discussions, we're all entitled to their own opinions. It's argument for the sake of it regarding our favourite TV show(s) and character(s), so anything goes in that regard (either serious or said with tongue firmly planted in cheek). An opinion as such is not wrong, and when members debate or argue about some subjects, they're welcomed to defend their points, bringing about their reflexion, presenting examples, références, so-called proofs, etc.

We don't always agree on subjects, but debating about them are a fun exercice.

We can always agree to disagree, at the end of the conversation, after all!

by **Marion** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:08 pm

If we all agreed about everything the forum wouldn't be half as much fun. In respect of fan fiction, I am sure I've said before that I consider most of the fun in reading it to be the different slants people put on charcters - and who is to say any opinion is not right?

Personally, I don't know anything about flying planes or military protocol and procedures, but I'm willing to discuss ideas arising out of either series in a spirit of friendly banter and on the understanding that I might have changed my opinions by the next time the topic comes up. :wink:

by **Skybase Girl** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:29 pm

Canary - I agree that NCS Rhapsody Angel was seen, "just tinkering, darling," with her plane in the episode "Virus". I mentioned her love of messing around with mechanics, possibly against regulations, in my fanfic "The First Christmas."

She was frustrated at not being allowed to deal with the mechanics of it all as well as the flying. I guess everyone likes to kick back against regulations!

by **Elentari** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:27 am

captain canary wrote:Looks like I can't say anything right.

I didn't mean that real life people in the services don't bother to wash, I meant that the actual service-women aren't going to go around showing off to the service-men like original Destiny does in Model Spy. Maybe I'm wrong about that too, though.

Don't read too much into it - I didn't think your comment implied that they don't wash. What a thought though! :grin:

I'm just saying standards of dress and bearing in the military means it's always something servicewomen (and men!) have to consider. Dressing up like Hollywood stars wouldn't cut it either BTW. :lol:

I agree, showing off to the men would not be a good idea if they wanted to be taken seriously.

Here's a bit of info I found on hair standards for servicewomen. The Angels have such big hair but the Colonel must be very indulgent where they are concerned, otherwise they could be charged with flouting regulations (assuming Spectrum had them of course):

"Hair is to be clean, of one colour or lightly tipped and neatly arranged. When in uniform, hair is not to extend below the lower edge of the buttoned shirt collar, and may be worn in a bun, roll or braid. Exaggerated styles, such as those with excessive fullness or extreme height, or shaven or partly shaven, are not permitted. The bulk of hair must not interfere with the correct wearing of military headdress. Female members may wear their hair in plain or braided pony tails whilst wearing sports dress."

Still, how the Angels manage to avoid Helmet Hair in the first place is probably one of life's mysteries.

by **Intensity Angel** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:06 pm

That is a very fair point.

And how I meant by 'industrialized' wasn't a question of the Angels skills, rather their appearance.

Melody Angel used to be a racing driver, I've heard that one before. No one touch that! That's gonna be my christmas fic!

Elentari I agree with you about the Angels avoid Helmet Hair. I want whatever hair product they use!!

by **Skybase Girl** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:54 pm

Curious about your theory about Melody's Angel's former career as a racing driver, Intensity ( I'm assuming you mean NCS Melody). I can't say I've seen that mentioned anywhere.

The original background information was extremely sketchy for all the Angels apart from Destiny - names and nationalities were about as much as you got. There was a little more detail provided in the updated "Complete Gerry Anderson" in 2008. In that, Melody is described as a former Olympic athlete, although it doesn't specify the sport or discipline. Unfortunately, I hadn't seen that when I wrote "Signals Through the Glass" that same year. My story therefore didn't contain any Olympic references!

I have to admit I was slightly cross that I should come bang up against what could be considered "canon" when I'd happily assumed I could make up what I liked without having to consider what the owners of the character might have determined. I did manage to redress the balance a little in "The First Christmas" where I decided she could have been a teenage skater selected for the Olympics who was injured before the competition!

Motor racing isn't an Olympic sport, Intensity, but who knows, it could be in the next fifty years, so if your Melody is a racing driver, go for it. No one will rain on your parade! :lol:

by **Intensity Angel** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:05 am

Fan fiction is technically AU anyway so might as well have a good time predicting the future while I'm at it, and a motorsport event was discussed this year, prehaps for Brazil. It might work if it ran like A1 Grand Prix.

by **Marion** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:54 am

It is OCS Melody - Magnolia Jones - who was a motor racing driver before she joined the WAAF. She must've been the only driver in nappies, if you ask me. :roll:

I have no idea what NCS Melody did.

by **Intensity Angel** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:40 am

The Episode 'Fallen Angels' will clarify who she is.

by **captain canary** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:14 pm

The new Angels get a lot more action, on screen, I think. The original Angels didn't spend much time on screen unless they were in a cockpit. It's a shame that only Destiny got a lot of the on screen time, though, that's probably why it's harder to tell them apart.

by **Marion** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:03 pm

I think it is a problem with the CGI more than anything - no one except the central characters get individualised - they all look the same - apart from the Chinese/Japanese Angel. The original Angels might have been more static (most of the puppets were, for obvious reasons) but they looked different enough for you to tell them apart.

by **Intensity Angel** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:32 pm

Fair enough. No one has the exact same likes, but that just makes the world interesting without being nasty. Me and my house mates for example, the one is a rugby fan, the other a football fan and I'm an F1 fan. But at the same time we all like anime and manga.

It's a shame that Destiny got so much development and the others didn't. She does get annoying as the series goes on.