Captain Scarlet's headaches
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Captain Scarlet supposedly get headache and generally feels unwell when he senses a Mysteron agent or activity nearby
I was just wondering if this was the case for ALL occasions or had there just been a continuity error.
I'm thinking of the Episode Noose of Ice, wheere the agent comes out of the lift right past Scarlet and Blue, even looking at them, but Scarlet doesn't react at all.
Any ideas?
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That last point raises an interesting speculation about whether every Mysteron construct has the original human consciousness trapped inside it. I suggested a while back that perhaps the spiral Car-Vu tower, past which he fell at high speed after having been shot by Captain Blue, acted as some sort of vast electro-magnetic coil which - by a million-to-one chance - was sufficiently powerful to neutralise the dominant Mysteron consciousness without being strong enough to deactivate its physical shell. If so, there's an interesting line of scientific enquiry for Doctor Fawn to pursue the next time he has a captured Mysteron agent on his operating table. I look forward to reading his next paper on the subject in The Lancet.
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Like Doc Brown, my favourite hypothesis is that Scarlet is picking up on the Mysterons telepathic communications.
Yesterday some interesting ideas were tossed about.
The one is that Scarlet's sixth sense was damaged in some fashion. One reckons that the sixth sense is given to Mysteron agents to help them locate and find their targets/victims and also locate where enemies are, sort of similar to the sixth sense of a shark. However when Scarlet was shot by Captain Blue and he fell, this somehow gave him brain damage and made his sixth sense faulty.
Another is that Scarlet already had this sense but it was dormant. That class mate backed up this with theory with X-Men and mutant genes and what not. Kind of like de ja vu if you ask me. But anyway, the Mysterons kill him off and this sense is replicated into the replicant and becomes slightly more active. After he is killed off a second time by Blue, this sense is now partially dormant and so sometimes it works, others times it doesn't.
I can't remember the other theories because I'm 75% asleep but I'll post them when I'm fully awake.
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This appears to manifest itself as dizziness or nausea, but like OCS , does not appear to happen on every occasion. The argument that Scarlet may only expereience it when Mysteron energies are at their most intense, is a good one.
"Circles of Doom" is the only NCS episode I can recall in which Scarlet exhibits signs of sudden illness and makes comment on it. Unknown to him at that point, but very close at hand, Captain Black is marshalling the full range of Mysteron powers to bring down Earth's communication systems. Telepathy with his Mysteron masters would presumably also be very strong. It seems this has an effect on the Mysteronised part of Scarlet, but quite why it should make him ill is a mystery.
Perhaps it is simply alien and human DNA at war with each other.
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I wonder if this is something that we see only because it is very pronounced (because Black is playing around with the Mysterons' powers), and it's only quite mild on other occasions - i.e. so mild that he might not necessarily show any outward signs of illness/discomfort? On the other hand, though, one would think that things like the Mysteron spacecraft in 'Enigma' or the Mysteron base in 'Dominion' would have also made Scarlet unwell enough for us to notice...
Perhaps it is just a typically Anderson lack of continuity?

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But this is a question that's been on my mind for decades, and we did actually have a good blather about it back in (yikes!) 2004 - which is why it took me a while to find it again! (for inquiring minds, to be found under The Mysterons, Origins of the Mysterons thread.)
Like Doc Brown, I happen to believe that what (OCS) Scarlet 'senses' is likely to be a kind of telepathic communication from the Mysterons directly to their reconstucted agents. And I say 'a kind of' simply because Scarlet also experiences intense headaches/discomfort when in the vicinity of Mysteron-controlled inanimate objects - let's call it a kind of telekinesis. Here's a cut and paste of the relvant bit from long ago:
Definitely they pick and choose their victims for their knowledge and/or usefulness - but I think once the construct is ‘tasked’, the Mysterons sort of sit back and watch the show play out - still in a passive sort of contact with the construct, but not necessarily feeding it minute by minute instruction. I think that can in large part account for Scarlet’s on-again, off-again sixth sense, assuming, and I do, that he’s got a ‘role’ as a passive data collector for the Mysterons: i.e. - if he’s ‘sending’, and the other reconstruction is ‘receiving’, then there will be a certain amount of ‘interference’ if Scarlet and the construct are in close proximity. However, if the construct is running on ‘autopilot’ so to speak, Scarlet can be standing right next to one and not know it. Scarlet also seems to have the most acute premonitions, or attacks of nausea when he’s around big, inanimate Mysteron reconstructions - like the Angel aircraft in Seek and Destroy, or Delta Tango in Winged Assassin; the Mysterons themselves are in the driver’s seat in those instances, and the ‘influence’ is a more constant ‘hands-on’ job for them in those cases. In the instance of Flight 104 the plane itself wasn’t a reconstruction that Scarlet could have ‘picked up on’. The Mysteron’s influence in that case was confined to the cockpit controls and was perhaps just far enough out of Scarlet’s immediate proximity for him to have noticed it.
So - 'telepathy' works great in the case of livng Mysteron reconstructions, but telekinetic control seems to be more in order when taking large and otherwise mindless Mysteronized objects into account.
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The headaches would definitely be related to his reconstructed brain and him operating again under a partially human form.
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Marion wrote:In that instance Blue asks him how he knew and Scarlet - rather than mentioning headaches or 6th sense - says (very prosaically) ' he didn't ask for our IDs'. So, unless he's lying - and why would he to Blue? - it was common sense warned him there.![]()
You have pointed out a very strong fact.
See, I don't stop and break it down like that. I'm easy going.
But it's actually cool that you pick up on things like that because that certainly went over my head I can't lie.
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Doc Brown wrote:My favourite hypothesis is that what's actually happening is that he's picking up Mysteron telepathic communications - so if there's no communication going on at the time when he's in the immediate proximity of a Mysteron construct, then he's not going to detect anything. Pushing the idea a bit further, I'd guess that the headaches are due to his reconstructed brain no longer being tuned to quite the right frequency, as it were - probably as a consequence of the same damage to his Mysteronised body that presumably resulted in his human consciousness becoming dominant once more after the Car-Vu incident.
That last point raises an interesting speculation about whether every Mysteron construct has the original human consciousness trapped inside it. I suggested a while back that perhaps the spiral Car-Vu tower, past which he fell at high speed after having been shot by Captain Blue, acted as some sort of vast electro-magnetic coil which - by a million-to-one chance - was sufficiently powerful to neutralise the dominant Mysteron consciousness without being strong enough to deactivate its physical shell. If so, there's an interesting line of scientific enquiry for Doctor Fawn to pursue the next time he has a captured Mysteron agent on his operating table. I look forward to reading his next paper on the subject in The Lancet.
You just blew my mind.
I shall subscribe to this theory. xP
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