random ponderings

by **Sasha Metcalfe** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:06 pm

i can't help but wonder about the long term psych effects of being continually blown up, shot, etc.
at least the first few times it had to make hism a bit anxious, esp since he feels whatever is happening to him.
he certainly doesn't look well after being shot.
yet, again and again he puts himself on teh line. ok, all for duty and protecting his buddies, but i can't hlep but wonder what is going on in his head.

i also hope they treat him well while he is recovering, can they at least give him a painkiller of sosme varitey?

i actually really like the scene in the runaway super tank episode, i'm not good on names, where after he and general(?) eject, the general is watching scarlet as they land. scarlet has been shot 3 times, its about the only time i noticed anyone having any compassion for him except Capatain blue.

i just hate to think that Spectrum has decided since he will be ok they can just sit him a corner and let him be miserable until he is all healed up.

and why didn't the general get to see him later? in later episodes people who were sure he was dead saw him fully recovered. might have left a better impression than just thinking Spectrum had treated him poorly.

i am far too infatuated with Scarlett to not be bothered by the idea of him being allowed to suffer needlessly.

Sasha

by **Marion** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:30 pm

There is a scene in 'Expo 2068' (I think) where Scarlet has been killed in an explosion and Blue is bringing him back to Cloudbase. Colonel White contacts Dr Fawn and alerts him to 'incoming wounded' and says quite plainly that it is an old friend and patient and that he must be made comfortable and 'he'll do the rest' (I am paraphrasing the actual words). The implication is that Spectrum care very much about Scarlet, and ensure that he is well-looked after when he's been injured..
The Colonel obviously values Scarlet's abilities and his dedication to Spectrum's cause - something he thanks him (and Blue) for in 'Manhunt' (I think it is that episode).
There's no suggestion in the show that they have

decided since he will be ok they can just sit him a corner and let him be miserable until he is all healed up.

The question of medication is a matter of debate. Since Scarlet's retrometabolism heals him, he may not need medication but there is at least one instance, in a comic story, where Fawn gives him a couple of aspirin... He's all heart is Fawn :-D

I am sure that whatever can be done, is done. After all, these are men who knew, worked with and, presumably, liked Paul Metcalfe before he was Mysteronised; why would they stop caring about him after what happend ?
The effect of his Mysteronisation and retrometabolism on Scarlet, and the people around him, is something that is dealt with in many of the fan fiction stories on the main web site. There are many suggestions and takes on the situation, and they are all interesting and valid ones. The canon information for the show is not very forthcoming - it was essentually a children's adventure series, and they avoided investigating any of the more adult psychological aspects of Scarlet's fate. But there is nothing to stop us doing that...

by **Sasha Metcalfe** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:02 pm

(sneaking back when i should be typing)
thanks for reminding me of that scene, i had forgotten it but yes, now i remeber because they show him all battered on the stretcher in the back.

oh..right..it was for kids, wasn't it

one of these days i'll have to check out the fanfic.

they don't do much with Dr. Fawn in the series, i haven't seen any of the comics (yet). Since I type for stuffy doctors i tend to be suspicious of how caring they actually are and how much of a 'oh just deal with it' attitude they have.

you have put my mind at ease.

Sasha

by **Sasha Metcalfe** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:39 pm

after reading through several of the treads on this board, the many theories and ponderings and speculation and insinuations and guesswork and sifting throught what little 'data' we have...

wow.
its a lot of work.
i think i'm going to side step this ultra deep discussion of the details of what he may or may not be able to do, and just ride with whatever impression the series gives me, which is that he won't get sickfrom contagious cooties, and will recover from whatever battering he receives.
do i think will he eventually die? sure, but that is just my faith is the course of nature to overcome anything - even the mysterons.

sorry if i have turned out to seem dull on this point, but its enough for my head to run with....and it is off and running all the time.

Sasha

by **Intensity Angel** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:25 pm

I suppose that continously being killed would take a hold of Captain Scarlet sooner or later. I'm positive I read a fan fic about when he snaps and goes of the rails.

But I'm positive Scarlet would be treated well and even if Dr Fawn can't do anything to help him; he'd just do something like bandage him or place him on a drip or anyway to clear his conscience and make it feel as if he has helped him.

As for long term effects like memories or emotional damage, I'm pretty sure a counciller would be there to offer Scarlet some help. He may be able to heal from the physical but there is no escaping the emotional and mental.

Besides I think Colonel White would comitt murder if he found out Captain Scarlet was being mistreated as he recovered, it'll be like something like this,

"After everything he's done for Spectrum and for this planet, you don't see it within you to take care of him properly?"

And then there's Captain Blue who would have a few words to say.

Besides what man could refuse the attention of some nurses while he's recovering from being blown up, shot at, beaten up etc etc.

by **gojohnniegogo** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:40 am

Intensity Angel wrote:I suppose that continously being killed would take a hold of Captain Scarlet sooner or later. I'm positive I read a fan fic about when he snaps and goes of the rails.

But I'm positive Scarlet would be treated well and even if Dr Fawn can't do anything to help him; he'd just do something like bandage him or place him on a drip or anyway to clear his conscience and make it feel as if he has helped him.

As for long term effects like memories or emotional damage, I'm pretty sure a counciller would be there to offer Scarlet some help. He may be able to heal from the physical but there is no escaping the emotional and mental.

Besides I think Colonel White would comitt murder if he found out Captain Scarlet was being mistreated as he recovered, it'll be like something like this,

"After everything he's done for Spectrum and for this planet, you don't see it within you to take care of him properly?"

And then there's Captain Blue who would have a few words to say.

Besides what man could refuse the attention of some nurses while he's recovering from being blown up, shot at, beaten up etc etc.

Excellent point Intensity! I think I'd be pretty messed up if I was in Scarlet's boots. But what would a councilor say to Scarlet? " I know how you feel" doesnt exactly cut it!

by **Intensity Angel** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:30 pm

No one would know what it is like for Captain Scarlet. Maybe they could just talk to him and make him feel at one in his skin. Offer him a shoulder to cry on prehaps. Scarlet is one to keep his emotions in check but secretly, he would let them out. He feels the pressure of the war more than anyone and he knows that everyone looks up to him.

But simple relaxtion techniques might help him unwind and a calm voice might encourage him to let go of his emotional bagage.

by **Sasha Metcalfe** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:57 pm

I think someone to help him decompress after getting pieced back together would be helpful.
no one one can really sympathise with him, but surely someone can let him lean on them.

by **Sasha Metcalfe** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:27 am

While Lt Green may think it makes it easy for Scarlet to be brave, i can't help but think of Prometheus.
Prometheus did a thing he thought was wonderful - giving fire to humans. but the gods were not happy with him so he spends the rest of eternity chained to a rock knowing each day a giant eagle will tear our his liver, which will then regrow.
he knows he will survive it, but he also knows he can't escape it and he feels it.

granted, Scarlet has a bit more purpose, each sacrifice he makes is to save that particular day. So, while i do think he is brave for continually doing this I also seem him as a bit of tragic figure. He can't escape it, like it or not he is their best defense against the Mysterons. I think his sense of loyalty and duty makes this not such a 'burden' in his mind but that doesn't mean it is easy on him.

Sasha

by **Intensity Angel** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:24 pm

It'd be hard on him. I know I wouldn't sruvive in this situation. Lucky he and Captain Blue are so close. He'd confine everything in Blue like a younger brother would with an older brother.

Website · by **Sage** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:47 pm

I know, it's quite endearing.

Was talking to a friend on lj vaugley about it, and we agreed that of the characters Scarlet is probably the one who would be best able to cope with having retrometabolism. Considering his military background, outlook, and sheer strength/quality of character to put himself into those situations and weather it.
No doubt the others would step up to the plate, but it would be a very diffrent dynamic.

by **Intensity Angel** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:12 am

If it was captain blue who was faced with being mysteronised, he'd probably fall to pieces. fate have it that Scarlet was the one mysterons targeted.

by **Mary** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:46 am

Intensity Angel wrote:If it was captain blue who was faced with being mysteronised, he'd probably fall to pieces. fate have it that Scarlet was the one mysterons targeted.

Hmm... Marion mustn't have been online this morning...

I think you're underestimating the Blonde Bostonian. After all, it's usually Blue who has to scrape Scarlet up and ferry him back to base. Don't you think that's hard enough in itself? And besides, remember that these agents are consummate professionals and have been very carefully screened for their jobs. Someone of weak character would have been weeded out from the start.

by **Intensity Angel** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:18 pm

Good point and I guess roles would be reversed if it vice versa. If you ask me fate has played a part and I guess the stress of continously having recover you're mate's dead body would be...can't find the words to describe it. But there is no denying the loyalty between scarlet and Blue and bet I Scarlet keeps apologising to Blue over him seeing his broken body everytime he dies.

I guess I must've been half asleep this morning hence my carelessness of thought.

by **Marion** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:45 pm

I hardly think it is something Scarlet has to apologise for - it's not like he does it on purpose...

I expect that if it had been any of the other Captains they would have coped - maybe not in the same way as Scarlet appears to - but as Mary says - they are professionals.
The TV series (certainly OCS - I seem to remember some angst in NCS - but could be wrong) never really show how Scarlet deals with the trauma of his life - nor how his friends deal with it either. That's something that's been left to the fan fiction writers - and there are plenty of stories that make a stab at what it must be like 'after the cameras stop rolling' - so to speak.