Dr. Fawn or Captain Grey: Who is more overlooked?

[Parker Gabriel]

This is part of a poll. Which of these two Spectrum CloudBase senior staff do you believe is more overlooked?

Is it Edward Wilkie, call sign Dr. Fawn, who coined the term "retro-metabolism?"

Or is it Bradley Holden, call sign Captain Grey, who went from the World Navy into the World Aquanaut Security Patrol and test-commanded the prototype of the Stingray before giving Troy Tempest the helm in his stead?

I'll look forward to your answers.

[chrisbishop]

Since this is in the fanfiction category, I do believe you mean, "overlooked in fanfic", right?

I'm trying to get them as much light as I could, in view of the stories I write - probably more with Fawn than with Grey - but it's true they're often overlooked. Probably it's because they were overlooked so much in the TV show as well?

Anyway, I think that in recent years, some other authors have tried to give more spotlights to them as well.

A little note, here, mind you: I think that we should keep to the canon names for those characters, in regard of threads or polls like this one. It might get a little confusing for people who doesn't know them very well, and they could take as accepted fact that, for example, the name Bradley "John" Holden is the canon name of Captain Grey - whereas the middle name has not been mentioned anywhere in any official printing or document. This would be false information.

However, anyone is free to use any middle name he/she wants in stories, and in such, the middle names can be used in posts refering to those stories (or plotlines). Personally, I didn't give it any real thoughts, to be truthful, because I didn't consider it really that important. If anything else, when it comes to Scarlet, I MIGHT give him father's name as his middle name. But then again, it's still not mentioned in any official document.

[Sage]

I've given them all* middle names, for the fun of it as I quite enjoy the selection process. It's rare for me to ever mention them in fic or otherwise, but do like having them ready chosen if I wanted to.
As it is in my 'version' Grey's middle name is Joseph. Probably because so many of them secondary characters in CS were called Joe, so apparently it'll be a popular in the 2030s.

Do agree with Chris though. It's fine to have ideas like that, but it should be made clear that they are just fan creations. After all other people have their own ideas, and shouldn't feel obliged to go along with someone else's.
You only really need to mention the code names anyway, as we know who you mean. So might as well save being redundant and the extra typing.

Anyway, to the point ...
I voted for Fawn. Just because I could only think of two stories in which he is the main character ('to taste or not to taste', and umm one of last years halloween fics). Where as Grey has been the protagonist of maybe half a dozen ('eavesdropping', 'so beautifully framed', a couple of mine, etc).
There may well be more for Fawn and/or Grey, my memory isn't so hot this time of night.

I'm trying to do more with Fawn. But he doesn't intrigue me the way Grey does. Actually quite like Grey, how I see him anyway; as quite droll and cynical, but a romantic too (and I really like how Carrie wrote him in 'Eavesdropping'; vain, much? lol).

*aside from Fawn and Harmony. I don't think they use middle names in Japanese/Chinese culture, so left it. Just haven't found a good one for him, and not everyone has a middle name anyway.

[Matt Crowther]

I try to include both as much as possible but in that regard, probably Dr Fawn. I've had Grey on a few missions, even in my first fanfic I included him. Though, this is a close tie between the two characters.

[Parker Gabriel]

I've observed, judging from the poll results alone, that Dr. Fawn seems to be more overlooked than Captain Grey does, especially in fanfic.

Can the stories be divided between who, aside from Captain Scarlet himself, is also spotlighted, as well as alphabetically?

That I'd like to see.

[Marion]

Part of the problem with writing about Doctor Fawn is that his role in most stories is to patch up the others after they've had the adventure. With the exception of a few stories, he doesn't leave Cloudbase.
Captain Grey can be included in any adventure/mission/story - if the author wants to.

It would also be hard to define which agents are being 'spotlighted' in some stories - when I write about Scarlet, I generally include Blue, and vice versa. When Magenta or Ochre are in the story, they tend to be in it together.
I stopped calling some of my stories 'Captain Scarlet' stories when I felt that he wasn't the focus of my attention (at least) and defined them as 'Spectrum Stories'. My favourite character is Captain Blue (which I'm sure will come as a huge shock to no one at all) but because of that, I write about Scarlet a fair bit as well.
I have written stories about Captain Ochre, and ones where Scarlet's partnered with other characters, and about the Angels as a group. In some stories, almost everyone appears to some degree. It is harder though, the more people you give substantial parts to.
You could read the 'synposis' posted for ever story that is posted, and see if that gives details of which character if the main one.
Other than that, I can't help you.

[MMK]

Part of the problem with writing about Doctor Fawn is that his role in most stories is to patch up the others after they've had the adventure. With the exception of a few stories, he doesn't leave Cloudbase.
Captain Grey can be included in any adventure/mission/story - if the author wants to.

From my experience Doctor Fawn is mainly the stories in which sickbay is included (for quite obvious reasons ). But there are a few exceptions.
Captain Grey... my memory betrays me - reading lots of fan fictions has its disadvantages (as well as its advantages).
But I think they are fairly balanced... even if I can't think of very many of the fan fics that Captain Grey has been in.

It would also be hard to define which agents are being 'spotlighted' in some stories - when I write about Scarlet, I generally include Blue, and vice versa. When Magenta or Ochre are in the story, they tend to be in it together.

Inseperable... thats the word. Where ever one is, the other isn't that far away.

My favourite character is Captain Blue (which I'm sure will come as a huge shock to no one at all)

lmao

You could read the 'synposis' posted for ever story that is posted, and see if that gives details of which character if the main one.

That does apply to some... e.g. 'one' of my fan fics .

[Matt Crowther]

I've involved Fawn critically in one of mine which is, granted a multiverse and I did involve him in Vengeance Syndrome which I'm re-writing. So Grey.

[Parker Gabriel]

I've involved Fawn critically in one of mine which is, granted a multiverse and I did involve him in Vengeance Syndrome which I'm re-writing. So Grey.

Whatever charges your Mysteron rifle.

[Clya Brown]

What's the purpose of this poll, please? Is the intention to write a story about the one who loses, perhaps? For what it's worth I've found in the past that minor characters are potentially very useful for providing material in fanfic stories, because you can endow them with characteristics that are useful to the plot (see Sage's earlier comments about Captain Grey, for example) without having to go to all the bother of creating new characters from scratch.

Having said that, developing such characters runs the risk of alienating other authors who have very different views of them, even though strictly speaking nothing that isn't actually canon* ought to be considered to be written in tablets of stone. For example, the character of Captain Ochre (OCS) has quite a following here; to the extent that a good few of the regular contributors feel they know what sort of person he is, what his likes and dislikes are, something of his past, how he's likely to react in a crisis, that sort of thing. But none of that came from the original TV show: Ochre was originally very much a minor character who was only rarely seen at all. Everything else has grown up around his "biography", which could well have been originally penned in fifteen minutes by a hard-pressed junior employee of whichever company was commissioned to publish the first Captain Scarlet Annual. But forty years later that's irrelevant: if someone comes along now who casually announces in their fanfic that the guy is prone to bouts of agrophobia, gave Harmony Angel a black eye once and keeps a collection of pink angora sweaters in his quarters then they can expect to receive a pretty rough ride when it comes to getting their latest literary masterpiece accepted by the community at large. That's not to say it can't be done - but it's very much at the author's own risk!

[* Just to clarify, "canon" is accepted fact, and is normally taken to mean anything that is established in the original TV show, and nothing else. In virtual communities like this one however, you've also got what is usually called "fanon", which are things that are not strictly canon, but do not contradict it and are widely accepted by most fans. Biographies of the main characters would fall into this category: such "pseudo-facts" provide among other things a framework within which readers can relate easily to other authors' fanfic. Anything else is simply an extrapolation by individual contributors, and is likely to be contested if presented as "fact".]

[MMK]

Doc Brown - point taken.

But I don't think any author would make the character do anything 'drastic' or 'unusual' without a good reason for doing so... at least I hope they have a good reason behind their 'actions' .

[Clya Brown]

Oh, I think you'd be surprised what some authors will contemplate! To get a feel for the range and variety of offerings available, take a wander around http://www.fanfiction.net for an hors d'oeuvres, and then graduate to http://www.godawful.net for the main course. True to the culinary metaphor, you may need a strong stomach!

[MMK]

Oh, I think you'd be surprised what some authors will contemplate! Take a look around http://www.fanfiction.net for an hors d'ouevres, and then graduate to http://www.godawful.net for the main course. True to the culinary metaphor, you may need a strong stomach!

It may come as no suprise to you when I say that I have read ALL the CS fan fic on http://www.fanfiction.net - I started there then I found this site
I haven't heard of the other site, but I'll try reading some ff's from there... besides I'm not eating any food at this moment in time, so I should be alright .

[Marion]

As long as the character presented in any story does not contravene the minimal information we know from the TV shows, I readily accept any author's right to draw the character as they wish.
I don't expect my version of the characters to be taken - in any way, by anybody - as being more 'true to life' than any other version. I make things up to suit myself, my plotlines and my own interpretation of the characters in the show, as I'm sure other authors do as well. I try to remain true to what I have previously written but, if one day I decide to change the whole lot round, I'd expect to be able to do so as long as I do not contravene 'canon'.
There are restrictions on this Website which do limit some versions of certain characters - for example 'slash' fiction is not accepted, even though there is a strand of the fandom which prefers that interpretation. There have been some decent stories written that cannot be included here because of the 'slash' element.
Beyond that - the world is your bivalve of choice...

[MMK]

the world is your bivalve of choice...

:P
In case there are people reading the comment above and do know what Marion is going on about, it is a paraphase of a known saying: "the world is your oyster"
(an Oyster is one of the many types of bivalves).

Smart aren't I
(I study Geology as well as Film Studies)