Who could be the star?

by **MMK** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:08 pm

Sage wrote:Think they meant light weight in the sense of talent/stage precense. Compared to Jack Harkness Scarlet's a bit more 'dark' and brooding.

Oops... my mistake :oops:

by **Parker Gabriel** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:09 am

Who else on this forum thinks Neil Dickson of "She-Wolf Of London" aka "Love & Curses" would be convincing, and/or could be effective, as Captain Black?

by **Parker Gabriel** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:46 am

There's an element in all of this that I doubt some of the other members of the forum are appreciating. Captain Scarlet is, first and foremost, a television character. That means that most of the actors chosen for the key roles would have to be from the world of television, not that of films. Those who DID come from films would be those not well known in films, who could then hold their own in television.

That's the main reason I've been proposing television actors for the key roles, for the most part.

by **Marion** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:55 am

The first post in this thread said: Now that this Thurnderbirds movie (save that for another time..yipes!) is coming out, I was thinking about a Captain Scarlet movie. Does anyone have any idea who they think would make a good Captain Scarlet, or should they get someone unknown?

So it is asking about a Captain Scarlet MOVIE. Three or four posts in - we agree that age is no barrier to choice of a suitable actor/actress for a role. This is after all, just a bit of fun.
Everyone's suggestions are as valid as anyone else's - and about as likely to happen... :wink:

by **Parker Gabriel** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:12 am

I can't avoid thinking about what David Ansen wrote in Newsweek Magazine when he reviewed Neighbors, John Belushi's last film. I quote from his text.

"John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd obviously got cast because the're 'bankable,' but no one bothered to ask if they're appropriate."

So whoever acted out the roles would have to be appropriate for those roles as well as at least marginally better known than the next actors or actresses.

by **hazel** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:27 pm

Parker Gabriel wrote:There's an element in all of this that I doubt some of the other members of the forum are appreciating. Captain Scarlet is, first and foremost, a television character. That means that most of the actors chosen for the key roles would have to be from the world of television, not that of films. Those who DID come from films would be those not well known in films, who could then hold their own in television.

That's the main reason I've been proposing television actors for the key roles, for the most part.

Are you suggesting that well-known film actors can't or shouldn't be cast in television productions, and vice versa? I think the Screen Actors Guild, Equity and various other performers' unions would have something to say about that.

(Yes, I'm aware that some actors do prefer to specialise in one medium and rarely work in other show-business outlets, but that specialisation tends (big, sweeping generalisation here) to apply to radio and stage.)

by **Skybase Girl** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:15 pm

I thought we were discussing who would be suitable in general, not whether a film actor would be available for TV or vice versa. After all it's just a wish list !

As an aside, I was watching the film "Jersey Girl" last night, and have begun to rethink Ben Aflleck for Scarlet......

That is NCS, I suppose, but I'm sure he's a good enough actor to develop a plausible Englisg accent, so he's do for OCS as well !

by **Parker Gabriel** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:43 am

This responds to a message I had posted to the forum.

I had written: "There's an element in all of this that I doubt some of the other members of the forum are appreciating. Captain Scarlet is, first and foremost, a television character. That means that most of the actors chosen for the key roles would have to be from the world of television, not that of films. Those who DID come from films would be those not well known in films, who could then hold their own in television. That's the main reason I've been proposing television actors for the key roles, for the most part."
Hazel had asked in response: "Are you suggesting that well-known film actors can't or shouldn't be cast in television productions, and vice versa?"
Answer: That wasn't QUITE what I was saying.
"I think the Screen Actors Guild, Equity and various other performers' unions would have something to say about that."
Answer: There's a limit to what they'll protest, just as there's one to what they'll tolerate.
"(Yes, I'm aware that some actors do prefer to specialise in one medium and rarely work in other show-business outlets, but that specialisation tends (big, sweeping generalisation here) to apply to radio and stage.)"
Answer: In Britain, definitely yes. Not so in the United States, for the most part.

All I'm saying is that though film/screen actors can and, in some cases probably should, be signed for television roles(thankfully, they often are), there's the very real chance that they could overpower the rest of the cast if they were.

You also have to view it from the perspective of the bottom line. Better-known actors do tend to draw larger audiences, and when they do, that means richer box-office receipts in theaters and higher advertising revenues flooding television networks with more cash. Of course, in the final analysis, it's always the STORY that keeps them returning to the theaters, and it's always the STORY that keeps their hands off the dials of older TV receivers or the remote controls of newer ones. Choose the wrong actor for a part and you're liable to risk totally destroying the story.

by **Parker Gabriel** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:03 am

When I saw him as McDaggett in RoboCop 3, weak though the film itself was, I thought John Castle could be effective as Colonel White if we couldn't get Malcolm McDowell. since he does bear a resemblance to what the late Donald Gray had looked like when he was alive. But then I learned, from the article about Mr. Castle in Wikipedia, that he's 67 years of age as of this year--fully sixteen years older than Colonel White is supposed to have been at the time the war of nerves began!

That totally negated my qualifications to judge his merits.

So I ask: Is John Castle still capable of effectiveness as Colonel White, even though he is older than the character? Responses are welcome. Yea or nay, bring them on!

by **Marion** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:54 am

Parker Gabriel asked:

So I ask: Is John Castle still capable of effectiveness as Colonel White, even though he is older than the character? Responses are welcome. Yea or nay, bring them on!

I had already said in an earlier post:

Three or four posts in - we agree that age is no barrier to choice of a suitable actor/actress for a role. This is after all, just a bit of fun.
Everyone's suggestions are as valid as anyone else's - and about as likely to happen...

To which I would add, John Castle is an excellent actor and I'm sure he could play Colonel White, if asked.

by **Parker Gabriel** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:09 am

Marion had said: "John Castle is an excellent actor and I'm sure he could play Colonel White, if asked."

So she says me yea.

Bring on other responses!

by **Parker Gabriel** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:24 am

What does the group think of the idea of Neil Dickson, from "She-Wolf Of London" aka "Love & Curses," as Captain Black?

I am convinced he could definitely pull it off with ease. He certainly bears a resemblance to Conrad Turner before the former World Space Patrol colonel became the Mysterons's primary agent on Earth.

by **Parker Gabriel** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:31 am

If Captain Scarlet ever makes it to live action, would Thaao Penghlis, who was the least talented cast member of "Mission: Impossible--The Late 1980s Missions," be an appropriate choice as the driver of the lunar tank in the live-action version of "Crater 101?" That driver has little dialogue, and moreover, in the actual installment, his dialogue is only spoken AFTER the Mysterons have already taken him over.

by **Marion** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:41 am

I don't know about everyone else, but I can't respond to these, because I don't know who they are or what they look like and you haven't supplied a picture. I tried looking Neil Dickson up on google, the last time you mentioned him, but without much success.

by **MMK** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:45 pm

Marion wrote: I don't know about everyone else, but I can't respond to these, because I don't know who they are or what they look like and you haven't supplied a picture. I tried looking Neil Dickson up on google, the last time you mentioned him, but without much success.

Try looking him up on http://www.imdb.com, it's fairly reliable.

Here's the page of Neil Dickson for you... http://imdb.com/name/nm0225698/