The Mysterons and Radiation

by **Kambei** » Thu May 18, 2006 1:07 pm

Apologies if this topic has been brought up before.

I was recently watching Manhunt again for the zillionth time and something struck me as rather odd, so I watched it again.
Right at the beginning, Black is breaking into the nuclear facility in order to perpetrate some unknown act for the Mysterons.
The alarms in the facility are sounded before Black enters the irradiation room and receives a large dose of radiation. My question is: Why did the Mysterons allow Black to expose himself to positive capture? Why did they not just 'beam' him out as they did in Heart of New York and Model Spy?
My theory is that radiation, like electricity has an adverse effect on Mysteron constructs or anything under their control and they could not physically remove Black from play. This would explain why he had to escape on foot and then using an SPV. (Aside from the fact that if they HAD beamed him out, the episode would have been only 5 minutes long! :lol:

) It could also explain why he let Symphony go, apart from distracting Spectrum, if his basic personality were exerting itself to a small extent.

Thoughts?

by **shaqui** » Thu May 18, 2006 1:18 pm

Basically, the series was being made up and developed as the series went on. (Trek fans quibble about why a shuttlecraft is never used in the early episode 'The Enemy Within' - reason: because the shuttle was not made until the later 'The Galileo Seven'! :lol:

)

So the short answer was - the Mysteron power of teleportation was not thought of in 'Manhunt', but used as a convenient way out for Black in 'Heart of New York' and 'Model Spy'.

On a similar track - does Black teleport in 'Inferno', or does he briefly become invisible? Which begs the question also, did Black simply become invisible in the other episodes too? We never see anyone search the area - would Scarlet and Blue, seeing the dead end, have simply driven back out again leaving Black to reappear and escape? Ditto the tunnel in 'Model Spy'...

by **chrisbishop** » Thu May 18, 2006 2:25 pm

Aside from the 'not thought of' explanation (which obviously is the REAL reason behind what could appear as a 'faulty plotline'), it is understandable that fans will look for logical explanations for those same, otherwise unexplanable occurances. That makes for wonderful subject for fanfic writers to fill plot holes.

The radiation theory has been thought off and used in a few fan fics as explanation for that particular case. Notably in Tiger Jackson's story "Have mercy on the Prisoner" and on my story, "The Quest".

There might be other stories as well, but at the moment, it's my memory which is faulty. :wink:

by **Kambei** » Fri May 19, 2006 4:54 pm

Don't know how the devil I missed The Quest when I first found this site and started reading the fan fiction, before I joined the forum. Just spent a rather pleasent afternoon reading it from beginning to end. I enjoyed it immensely. So much in fact, that by the start of chapter 2, i was hearing the characters voices in my head.
The idea of the Scarab Project was intriguing. I can see how a Government at war would think of something like that. I did think of the retrometabolism problem quite early on, though. I have always assumed that bullets go the same way as they do on Highlander, that they are absorbed, or simply dissolve.

by **DartBrat701** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:50 pm

Speaking of teleporting, let's not forget about the Spectrum helicoper in "The Mysterons", that mysteriously appears with no pilot.... just before it crashes into the Car Vu.

by **shaqui** » Wed May 24, 2006 6:14 am

DartBrat701 wrote:Speaking of teleporting, let's not forget about the Spectrum helicoper in "The Mysterons", that mysteriously appears with no pilot.... just before it crashes into the Car Vu.

In what way does it 'mysteriously appear'?

by **DartBrat701** » Wed May 24, 2006 5:35 pm

You're right! (I must have misquoted....me, Bad!)

I guess what I meant to say was, the duplication of the Spectrum Helicopter wasn't seen....or was it? :roll:

The Mysterons must be playing with my mind or something! :lol:

by **shaqui** » Wed May 24, 2006 6:03 pm

DartBrat701 wrote:I guess what I meant to say was, the duplication of the Spectrum Helicopter wasn't seen....or was it?

It wasn't seen but the original script refers to the helicopter having crashed prior to Captain Blue contacting it.

by **DartBrat701** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:31 am

Thanks, Shaqui!

I guess seeing it with no pilot, kind of threw me for a curve.

Still, Colonel White probably didn't realize that Helicopter A-42 was under Mysteron control. (He included it, when he informed Capt. Blue & the Angels that Capt. Scarlet was going up the Car Vu.)

by **Cobalt** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:44 am

DartBrat701 wrote:You're right! (I must have misquoted....me, Bad!)

I guess what I meant to say was, the duplication of the Spectrum Helicopter wasn't seen....or was it?

The Mysterons must be playing with my mind or something!

Hmm it's suggested that the Helicopter crashed en-route to Captain Blue and the Car Vu.

We know that the mystersons and influance an object at times before it's destroyed even. I think this must take alot of energy and this is why they don't do it all the time.

by **DartBrat701** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:41 am

Another possibility might be that; Capt. Black could have detained the helicopter pilot so that the Mysterons can control A-42. (This later happened in 'Flight 104'.)

Proof positive, that Black doesn't always necessarily HAVE to kill victims, to achieve the Mysterons' objectives.

by **Cobalt** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:35 pm

DartBrat701 wrote:Another possibility might be that; Capt. Black could have detained the helicopter pilot so that the Mysterons can control A-42. (This later happened in 'Flight 104'.)

Proof positive, that Black doesn't always necessarily HAVE to kill victims, to achieve the Mysterons' objectives.

he just likes to

by **gojohnniegogo** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:24 am

Sick, psychotic... ermm... being!

by **DartBrat701** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:49 pm

gojohnniegogo wrote:Sick, psychotic... ermm... being!

He's quite a piece of work, isn't he??

Without a doubt, Black is quite possibly the most dastardly of Supermarionation's villians! :wink:

(Masterspy, Mr. & Mrs. Space Spy, Titan & The Hood have got NOTHING on Captain Black!!)

by **chrisbishop** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:58 pm

I don't know, I have rather the impression that Captain Black is the most tragique of villains.

We don't know if he's alive or had been killed. If he's dead, then he's nothing than a zombie between the hands of the Mysterons. If he's alive, then, still under the Mysterons' control, he might still be conscious of what he's doing, yet unable to do anything about it.

Can he be freed from that control? We don't know either. And if he can indeed we freed, then how would he live with himself, remembering what he had done? Again, if he is able to remember; however, if he's not, there will always be something or someone reminding him of this.

Knowing what kind of man Captain Black was before being taken over by the Mysterons (a man fighting for justice and dreaming of peace), his present fate is rather ironic - and yes, very tragic.