Fallen Angels

by **steviep** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:21 pm

CAClark wrote:Oh, the toucan, the way it landed on the branch actually looked ace. Kudos to the dude(s) responsible for that.

Cheers!

Not only landing but flying off and making the branch bounce. Nice attention to detail!

by **Marcus** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:16 am

King Arthur? Maybe you are just more cultured than me! :grin:

Another minor annoyance is the fact that the three Angels' bodies all appeared exactly the same, and with Melody looking like Harmony who in turn looked like the Mysteron pirate it spoils the characterisation a little if it takes youa second or so to work out who's who.

Or maybe Spectrum insist Angels must have a skinny waist & ample chest! Interesting recruitment policy... :wink:

by **shaqui** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:21 am

Kinggodzillak wrote:Did anyone else think they saw blood trickling down Harmony's face when she was being tortured? Because of the way some of her red hair was floating around, it looked like the pirate had actually sunk her fingers into her skin.

Yeh I thought that too, but the next time we saw her it was obvious it was just her hair... unless when the DVD comes out we find it was blood, and that she was cleaned up in an MoM edit! :shock:

by **Clya Brown** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:28 pm

I'm with Marcus on the subject of the similarity of the Angels' bodies causing problems with the characterisation in this episode. The hairstyles are also very similar (though I can guess the reason why they'd need to be: the amount of work needed to program a clearly distinguishable variety of coiffures must surely be phenomenal), differing most obviously in terms of their colour. It brought home to me how much we do actually use body language to discriminate between people, and how instinctively we do it. The differences in body language between Scarlet and more stockily-built Blue are impossible to miss, and it's a tribute to the attention to detail in the CGI work that we are conscious of them, but that doesn't carry over as easily to the three (four if you include the baddie) girls in this instance. A slightly over-liberal use of the cloning tool, perhaps? In contrast, one character that really did stand out to me was the Polynesian pirate with the full-length body tattoos, who moved with the suppleness of a cat, which I thought added significantly to the sense of menace that he presented. Lovely piece of work there.

by **shaqui** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:02 pm

Doc Brown wrote:In contrast, one character that really did stand out to me was the Polynesian pirate with the full-length body tattoos, who moved with the suppleness of a cat, which I thought added significantly to the sense of menace that he presented. Lovely piece of work there.

That reminds me - one of them had a tattoo of a woman's face on his bicep. I was wondering if this was based on anyone? Wife or girlfriend of one of the animators perhaps?

:wink:

by **Daveyblue** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:44 pm

Marion wrote:
BTW- I usually don't see the live TX - but this week I did. What the was that stupid MOM presenter doing? This convinces me once and for all that CITV don't like the show, don't care what happens to it and are, in fact, almost out to belittle and degrade it... whatever I personally think about NCS and this episode in particular - That is appalling...

This is becoming a regular extra in this show along with the transmission "tweaks" that seem to happening, not sure what they have against NCS and your right it is appalling, would it happen in Dr Who? I think not.

Enjoyed it this week, Nice ariel work as usual, although hints of Preditor with Destiny might of looked better if she had "blacked" up for those night scenes, did think it was odd not picking up the weopons but hey I can go with it, nice CGI as usual with some good virtual camera angles. Also nice to see Scarlet having a break.

dave

by **shaqui** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:35 pm

Daveyblue wrote:Enjoyed it this week, Nice ariel work as usual, although hints of Preditor with Destiny might of looked better if she had "blacked" up for those night scenes, did think it was odd not picking up the weopons but hey I can go with it, nice CGI as usual with some good virtual camera angles.

Yes, it occured to me the Angels should do something about their dazzling white flightsuits which must have given them away more than once! Not suggesting they should take them off :wink:

but couldn't they have dirtied them down for camoflage? So much for survival skills! :shock:

by **Aegis** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:36 pm

The tattoo was actually of one of the character modellers - Rosanna Jon (Hope I got your surname right if you're reading this Rosie

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by **Kinggodzillak** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:31 pm

Was Ochre reading 'Instrument of Destruction'? I couldn't make out a title...